FaniMiBanana
07-10 03:54 PM
I am ready to pitch in for a lawsuit. Always believed independence the Bose way would have been better than the Gandhi way.
Right on! We should fight fire with fire, not with water. A lawsuit is the way to go. I'm willing to donate my breakfast allowance, and I also have friends who are law school students who can volunteer.
Right on! We should fight fire with fire, not with water. A lawsuit is the way to go. I'm willing to donate my breakfast allowance, and I also have friends who are law school students who can volunteer.
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walking_dude
11-30 02:40 PM
Thanks hpandey. Others, please continue with the contributions. Let's strengthen IV to a position that it can push through our legislations.
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food2006
07-17 07:56 PM
From all the members of South Dakota, A VERY BIG THANK YOU TO IV. We are all with you. Keep it up.
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RandyK
12-04 02:52 PM
I was watching CSPAN last night and both Senate majority leader and minority leader were talking about what they are planning to do in the next few weeks, Minority leader Senator Mitch McConnell talked about the Omnibus Bill and few other appropriation bills and he was hinting that they are planning on getting some of these done before Christmas. According to him, the congress does not have any other choice but to get these passed ASAP. This is the best time to attach and just ride the wave.
If we are to get anything done about our sorry state, this is it.
We need everyone to contribute.
Don�t think that IV will somehow find the money and do this on behalf of the community.
It is not the reality.
We need members to pitch in.
This is too important to ignore, I am sure if we don�t do anything now we will be regretting about the opportunity we had and how we didn�t do anything. We will not see another opportunity for at least an year.
Now click on the Contribute button and do your part..
I will guarantee you one thing; you will feel good that at least you did what you could instead of waiting on the side lines.
If we are to get anything done about our sorry state, this is it.
We need everyone to contribute.
Don�t think that IV will somehow find the money and do this on behalf of the community.
It is not the reality.
We need members to pitch in.
This is too important to ignore, I am sure if we don�t do anything now we will be regretting about the opportunity we had and how we didn�t do anything. We will not see another opportunity for at least an year.
Now click on the Contribute button and do your part..
I will guarantee you one thing; you will feel good that at least you did what you could instead of waiting on the side lines.
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msp1976
02-05 07:02 AM
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
No cap would be the best solution... but that is very tough to sell in Washington....That's why all this complications of asking to take dependents out of the cap and allowing overflow to go to China/India...
As I understand, IV already made these arguments to senators and even the senators who are sympathetic to immigration are not willing to remove the cap..The only thing they would accept is that the overflow would go to India/China/oversubscribed countries....I wonder if one of the core members would comment on this.....You do not need to name names....Just a request give a description of your interactions with law makers in this regard...That would put this issue to rest.....
theortically what longg says is correct.The system is not fair......but not many are listening to us at this point...So we have to find some way out of the situation.....
We need both alisa and longg as members because we need more to get traction in Washington.....the only common solution for these would be to get the numbers increased somehow....Otherwise EB3-EB3-India-China-ROW keep fighting each other...you would have nothing....
No cap would be the best solution... but that is very tough to sell in Washington....That's why all this complications of asking to take dependents out of the cap and allowing overflow to go to China/India...
As I understand, IV already made these arguments to senators and even the senators who are sympathetic to immigration are not willing to remove the cap..The only thing they would accept is that the overflow would go to India/China/oversubscribed countries....I wonder if one of the core members would comment on this.....You do not need to name names....Just a request give a description of your interactions with law makers in this regard...That would put this issue to rest.....
theortically what longg says is correct.The system is not fair......but not many are listening to us at this point...So we have to find some way out of the situation.....
We need both alisa and longg as members because we need more to get traction in Washington.....the only common solution for these would be to get the numbers increased somehow....Otherwise EB3-EB3-India-China-ROW keep fighting each other...you would have nothing....
ItIsNotFunny
03-06 03:01 PM
Bump ^^^
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paskal
09-08 11:06 AM
he is just expressing concern that more action is not taken. i wrote param a pm to explain, also this thread will not continue indefinitely. we do however need to be clear in our stand and in our actions. we should be able to enunciate what we believe without resorting to the kind of vitriol that is thrown at us. personally i am waiting to see that- it's important even to grow as a community and achieve success that we develop this ability. our strength lies in the facts not in any hate or rhetoric.
be rest assured that ip's of those that post such stuff are tracked for action.
be rest assured that ip's of those that post such stuff are tracked for action.
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santb1975
11-28 03:03 PM
Please come forward to support this great cause
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unitednations
02-04 11:01 PM
No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
How do you come to these conclusions what congress intended. AC21's main provisions were to recapture unused visas for certain years; extend h-1b beyond six years; allow someone to change a job after 485 pending for more then six months; allow unused visas to be allocated to oversubscribed countries on a quarterly basis rather then in the fourth quarter.
Above is what was changed. There was no lifting of country cap. If you go to the earlies visa bulletins listed; you will see that Dominican Republic at one time was retrogressed. I haven't looked at it in a long time but if someone goes to the historical visa bulletins pre ac21 then you may see significant movement in retrogressed countries in the fourth quarter of uscis fiscal year (july to september). This is what changed.
However, the ac21 part about unused visas only stipulated if in any quarter there were less applicants then visas available then spillover can happen in that quarter. However, as can be seen in 2005 that weasn't the case and there shouldn't have been spillover.
In another posting you mentioned that your employer doesn't care whether you are Indian or chines or pakistani or anything else. This is true they want you for your skill. However, how did you get into USA. Chinese generally go to school here and will work wherever they get a job. However, Indian nationals have designed a system to get their realitves here through h-1b. Selective recrutiing is performed to get fellow compatriates here that couldn't otherwise get here becuase they have no connections. I ask some of my clients how they get employees. They tell me they are sponsoring their classmates, their cousins, etc. for h-1b.
Therefore, you may think it is not fair; and perhaps it is not fair but perhaps government knows that certain systems have been designed and they value diversity.
In business definition a skilled worker is not someone with two years of experience, a bachelors or even a masters. A skilled worker is someone with substantial experience. That is 15 years and makes $200K to $300K. Employment base immigration is just an accomodation to allow a certain number of people into USA. In my mind it is just an accomodation or goodwill.
If the EB system was designd to attract the best and brightest minds; skilled worker definition or eb2 or eb3 definition would have a much different meaning and would follow business rather then USCIS definition. It would be much different. There would be no quota. It would follow normal business practicses. That is we, can't find a us citizen or greencard holder and we need you. In real business sens it would be an offer, acceptance and you would start in a couple of months. However, it doesn't follow normal business rules/practices because maybe the powers that be look at it as just an accomodation rather then a real necessity.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
How do you come to these conclusions what congress intended. AC21's main provisions were to recapture unused visas for certain years; extend h-1b beyond six years; allow someone to change a job after 485 pending for more then six months; allow unused visas to be allocated to oversubscribed countries on a quarterly basis rather then in the fourth quarter.
Above is what was changed. There was no lifting of country cap. If you go to the earlies visa bulletins listed; you will see that Dominican Republic at one time was retrogressed. I haven't looked at it in a long time but if someone goes to the historical visa bulletins pre ac21 then you may see significant movement in retrogressed countries in the fourth quarter of uscis fiscal year (july to september). This is what changed.
However, the ac21 part about unused visas only stipulated if in any quarter there were less applicants then visas available then spillover can happen in that quarter. However, as can be seen in 2005 that weasn't the case and there shouldn't have been spillover.
In another posting you mentioned that your employer doesn't care whether you are Indian or chines or pakistani or anything else. This is true they want you for your skill. However, how did you get into USA. Chinese generally go to school here and will work wherever they get a job. However, Indian nationals have designed a system to get their realitves here through h-1b. Selective recrutiing is performed to get fellow compatriates here that couldn't otherwise get here becuase they have no connections. I ask some of my clients how they get employees. They tell me they are sponsoring their classmates, their cousins, etc. for h-1b.
Therefore, you may think it is not fair; and perhaps it is not fair but perhaps government knows that certain systems have been designed and they value diversity.
In business definition a skilled worker is not someone with two years of experience, a bachelors or even a masters. A skilled worker is someone with substantial experience. That is 15 years and makes $200K to $300K. Employment base immigration is just an accomodation to allow a certain number of people into USA. In my mind it is just an accomodation or goodwill.
If the EB system was designd to attract the best and brightest minds; skilled worker definition or eb2 or eb3 definition would have a much different meaning and would follow business rather then USCIS definition. It would be much different. There would be no quota. It would follow normal business practicses. That is we, can't find a us citizen or greencard holder and we need you. In real business sens it would be an offer, acceptance and you would start in a couple of months. However, it doesn't follow normal business rules/practices because maybe the powers that be look at it as just an accomodation rather then a real necessity.
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qasleuth
02-25 12:30 PM
Can we get the Stubborn IV Core moving :mad:?
Now you deserve a sanju response :) go for it man !
Now you deserve a sanju response :) go for it man !
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bayarea07
09-11 08:35 PM
Thats True, I see that too that people doesnot seems to be enthusiastic, may be because of the reason that many members have left after getting their GC.
and are not intersted in this effort any more.
Is this campaign still on?
I did not see much enthusiasm on this issue.
Do people not want their files to be adjudicated or not?
and are not intersted in this effort any more.
Is this campaign still on?
I did not see much enthusiasm on this issue.
Do people not want their files to be adjudicated or not?
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gc_chahiye
09-08 12:30 AM
Jobs in America is for Americans. If at all it gets outsourced to your country then it is yours. But as long as that job is in my country, I will defend it and not let some Strive or Skill act take it away from me.
its not as simple as a job. Many technology jobs are created in America because of companies founded by immigrants (google, Sun, eBay, Yahoo the list goes on). By not letting in these immigrants (who are motivated and capable of starting their own business) you make them start that business in China or india. You are LOSING american jobs.
its not as simple as a job. Many technology jobs are created in America because of companies founded by immigrants (google, Sun, eBay, Yahoo the list goes on). By not letting in these immigrants (who are motivated and capable of starting their own business) you make them start that business in China or india. You are LOSING american jobs.
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08-12 10:09 PM
PotatoEater,
I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 square ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.
Hi uma001
Why you don't fill all your details?
I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 square ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.
Hi uma001
Why you don't fill all your details?
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gauravsh
08-12 09:49 PM
potatoeater can be anyone. He has so many reds. You should always check out a person. Get his name and phone number to check him before giving him any personal information. Just my thoughts.
thanks man for concern, but nothing personal information was given. I am just trying to help a desi.
thanks man for concern, but nothing personal information was given. I am just trying to help a desi.
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nozerd
02-03 08:54 AM
Its like your boss asking you to tell him how many hrs you do actual work v/s how many hrs do you do non work related things. Would you volunterily disclose your wasted time at work every day ?
You will disclose total hrs you worked but not time you didnt work :)
USCIS does not give how many Visas they have used and how many are left
like how many unused have gone to EB3 or Eb2 etc
if its Vertical or horizontal visa distribution
they have been some Law Suits on them to give the data
You will disclose total hrs you worked but not time you didnt work :)
USCIS does not give how many Visas they have used and how many are left
like how many unused have gone to EB3 or Eb2 etc
if its Vertical or horizontal visa distribution
they have been some Law Suits on them to give the data
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h1techSlave
11-19 03:19 PM
I think you can sell it in ebay and donate the money to IV.
If you post the link of the ebay auction in IV and promote it, the bidding price would be much higher than that for a regular Wii in ebay.
I am just thinking what is that I have to sell....
You know what. I would like to donate something to IV this holiday season. I have a Wii gaming console that I bought earlier during the year but never actually got around to play it much :)
I want to donate that to IV. There are a couple of ways you can get your hands on this amazing machine, PM me and I will mail it to your address, you send the retail value of a Wii, to IV as donation. Or we can set up an auction. Highest bidder gets it. Mind you this is just for donation purposes. I won't make any money out of this. You will get a gaming console and IV will get some donation.
Lemme know.
If you post the link of the ebay auction in IV and promote it, the bidding price would be much higher than that for a regular Wii in ebay.
I am just thinking what is that I have to sell....
You know what. I would like to donate something to IV this holiday season. I have a Wii gaming console that I bought earlier during the year but never actually got around to play it much :)
I want to donate that to IV. There are a couple of ways you can get your hands on this amazing machine, PM me and I will mail it to your address, you send the retail value of a Wii, to IV as donation. Or we can set up an auction. Highest bidder gets it. Mind you this is just for donation purposes. I won't make any money out of this. You will get a gaming console and IV will get some donation.
Lemme know.
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akhilmahajan
06-18 08:42 AM
If you're worried, the easiest thing to do is to have the name changed in the passport. The Consulate doesn't ask for any questions and issues the new passport within a day. For my friend, the first name and the last name were interchanged and getting the new passport was a breeze.
So, u mean have to go to the consulate and get it done........ i dont think right now can take a chance of sending the passport to the consulate............. thnaks for your advice, will def. check with the consulate........
So, u mean have to go to the consulate and get it done........ i dont think right now can take a chance of sending the passport to the consulate............. thnaks for your advice, will def. check with the consulate........
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02-25 06:02 PM
Great Idea!!!
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seekerofpeace
08-22 02:22 PM
What documents were u asked to submit...could you please enlist....well June 25 is fairly recent....you should be fine then.
Mine was RFE last November......and am not sure what's the status is....
u shld take a infopass appt.
SoP
Mine was RFE last November......and am not sure what's the status is....
u shld take a infopass appt.
SoP
thomachan72
12-08 12:55 PM
To summarize this discussion.
The overwhelming majority of posters sympathized with the women and were uncomfortable with what the sheriff did.
A few members support the sheriff.
In democracy we have to learn to tolerate the minority opinion too, however, it stops at the level of toleration and does not become the law.
The overwhelming majority of posters sympathized with the women and were uncomfortable with what the sheriff did.
A few members support the sheriff.
In democracy we have to learn to tolerate the minority opinion too, however, it stops at the level of toleration and does not become the law.
Mahatma
07-10 08:37 AM
This is a guess and I have not studied the law book or statutes on immigration law. Per country limit could be an administrative procedure and not as such a mandate by congress. The intent, nuance or spirit of the congress may not match this per country logic being implemented currently. There is just so much mismatch between equality, justness, fairness and nondiscrimination versus imposing per country quota and retrogression. It never made any sense to me. However, every quarter unused visa gets distributed irrespective of country limit. This nullifies the negative effect of per country limit considerably.
Everybody (that includes H1bs) in this country (according to Murthyji and other experts) is entitled to peaceful assembly, seeking justice and participating in improving current system!!
It is the beauty of the system here that sooner or later, people appreciate others point of view and there are enough checks and balances. Judiciary is one such important institution.
Everybody (that includes H1bs) in this country (according to Murthyji and other experts) is entitled to peaceful assembly, seeking justice and participating in improving current system!!
It is the beauty of the system here that sooner or later, people appreciate others point of view and there are enough checks and balances. Judiciary is one such important institution.
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